Tuesday, August 31, 2004
Social Tolerance
I just realised that the angst we're in as a nation is that there is no "norm" of social conduct. We're a relatively new society (post petrol) and do not know whats right from wrong. Some of us found Islam as the way to guide their actions, others found our old (mother labsa boshia & dad gone pearl diving) culture, and others are confused between everything they have seen Kuwait go through in the past 50 years. I guess thats why at Marina mall you find a teenager with his blue tooth hitting on a mu7ajaba in her skin tight clothes right next to a Salafi-looking person and his family and its OKAY. God Bless Kuwait and hopefully we will always have social tolerance.
Question: If the Islamist MPs are to take over and to change Kuwait into an Islamic State (expected v. soon), what would you do & why?
A. Choose to dissolve parliament
B. Go live elsewhere
C. Buckle up and put a 7ijab on
D. Take part in a coupe de ta
E. Other, explain pls.
Question: If the Islamist MPs are to take over and to change Kuwait into an Islamic State (expected v. soon), what would you do & why?
A. Choose to dissolve parliament
B. Go live elsewhere
C. Buckle up and put a 7ijab on
D. Take part in a coupe de ta
E. Other, explain pls.
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F. Start a new Blog and post photos of the good old days when girls wore bikinis in Palms
G. Start a new Blog and show daily pictures of your unused razors - electric shavers - shorts - Stars & stripes underwear.
G. Start a new Blog and show daily pictures of your unused razors - electric shavers - shorts - Stars & stripes underwear.
i'll choose b i'll live somewhere else but the question is 4 how long i can stay away? but i'll make sure i'll take with me:
1)درب الزلق
2) ضحية بيت العز
3) سدرة العشاق
because i'll b home sick
1)درب الزلق
2) ضحية بيت العز
3) سدرة العشاق
because i'll b home sick
Sighhhhh chinna its ghazu all over again, Allah la igool! Nano, dont forget your sisters' weddings 7ag il the7ek wil bachi :/
Dear Zalikha: Sorry i can't.....i'll miss Mondays Thursdays...and my new summer friends i'm used to this life style NOw
In all fairness, i must give a background of how the Sunni Islamists monster came about. Remember the Irani Islamic Revolution? Well that was created to over throw the Shaah (liberal autonomous ruler of Iran who was not listening to Uncle Sam- it was easy to over throw him because there was a huge gap between the priveleged & the poor who followed Khomeni & his revolution). Then came the Iraq/Iran war in the 80s. We supported Iraq against the apparent Extreme Islamic Shiite regime who we wrongly believed was out to get Iraq then Kuwait & the area. Little did we know that the threat was from the pimp called Saddam, or Iraq (lets not get personal here ;). So in the 80's the threat was from extremist Shiite groups who were "the" designated terrorists at the time, and there was a failed assasination attempt on our Emir. This was when the government felt shaky and started supported the ikhwan and the salaf and the badu to balance the situation. Little did they know that all three would team up against Kuwait and everything Abdullah Al-Salem (founder of Independent Kuwait) built. Moreover, the "liberals" also misrespresented themselves as BS socialists or baathists at a time where these notions were becoming obsolete and their popularity and presence fizzled into nothingness. Which leaves us with 1 last grp, the independents-- but they're acting like monkeys too, following the Islamists. So basically yes, we're doomed.
Ops sorry Zaleikha, here goes your comment to Nano, i deleted bil ghala6 (was trying to correct a few typos on mine):
My Dear Plushness,
he supports them lana mako a7ad min the other party that will support him against islamists. lets be frank their "islamic MP's" voice is heard much LOUDER !!!!!!!!!
My Dear Nano Nano,
afa bas afa !!!!!! very DISAPPOINTED WITH U!!!!!!! the iraqi's didnt make u leave the country....... so u give up EASILY for the islamists AFAAAAAA :(
posted 2:48 pm
My Dear Plushness,
he supports them lana mako a7ad min the other party that will support him against islamists. lets be frank their "islamic MP's" voice is heard much LOUDER !!!!!!!!!
My Dear Nano Nano,
afa bas afa !!!!!! very DISAPPOINTED WITH U!!!!!!! the iraqi's didnt make u leave the country....... so u give up EASILY for the islamists AFAAAAAA :(
posted 2:48 pm
Why do u expect it very soon? I dont see any sign showing that!
I am wondering ...
aren't u a muslim? aren't u living in an islamic country?
so why do u complain about your religion and religious Kuwaitis?
I am wondering ...
aren't u a muslim? aren't u living in an islamic country?
so why do u complain about your religion and religious Kuwaitis?
Okay, i am in a bad mood because of our muqawil and have no tolerance for ignorance. If you do not know what factions or groups our Parliament is made of, and if you do not see this as a growing trend then i suggest that you switch on the Tv, simply or read a news paper once a week.
As to your comment about me complaining about my religion, i correct you and ask you to correct yourself, I DID NOT COMPLAIN ABOUT MY RELIGION. As to your comment of Kuwait being an Islamic country, THEN I SUGGEST YOU READ OUR CONSTITUTION, BECAUSE KUWAIT IS NOT AN ISLAMIC COUNTRY. NEW: THE ONLY ISLAMIC COUNTRIES IN THE WORLD ARE SAUDI ARABIA & IRAN. I SUGGEST THAT YOU ATTEND A COURSE IN KU THAT SHOULD BE COMPULSORY TO ALL CALLED '7KOOMAT O SIYASAT AL-KUWAIT' that is if you dont feel like reading. Meanwhile, please reserve your political comments to yourself.
Thank you & come back again.
As to your comment about me complaining about my religion, i correct you and ask you to correct yourself, I DID NOT COMPLAIN ABOUT MY RELIGION. As to your comment of Kuwait being an Islamic country, THEN I SUGGEST YOU READ OUR CONSTITUTION, BECAUSE KUWAIT IS NOT AN ISLAMIC COUNTRY. NEW: THE ONLY ISLAMIC COUNTRIES IN THE WORLD ARE SAUDI ARABIA & IRAN. I SUGGEST THAT YOU ATTEND A COURSE IN KU THAT SHOULD BE COMPULSORY TO ALL CALLED '7KOOMAT O SIYASAT AL-KUWAIT' that is if you dont feel like reading. Meanwhile, please reserve your political comments to yourself.
Thank you & come back again.
Thank YOU ...
I read 3 different newspapers daily
and I come from a family full of politicians
So I'm not the one who have lack of information !
I read 3 different newspapers daily
and I come from a family full of politicians
So I'm not the one who have lack of information !
I do not want to have this argument with you Fatality, because obviously you feel all fired up for your mate and I don’t want this to be personal. Emotions are man's biggest downfall. As to weather Kuwait is an Islamic country, i will ask you to ask any authority for the right answer. I will not credit myself with the correct answer. However, Kuwait is a secular country. Our law system is actually based on French Law, except with “a7wal shakhsiya” and other subjects like inheritance and what have you. If that wasn’t true then we wouldn’t throw thieves in prison, we would cut off their hands, AND we wouldn’t hang murderers, we would cut their heads. In our Constitution it states that Islam is the main source but not the ONLY source for legislation. Moreover, democracy is not an Islamic notion, and this should be the BIGGEST fear for all of us who have been enjoying freedoms of speech and freedom among other freedoms that a democracy allows. You can ask any cousin of yours who studied law at KU ;)
Oh & on the subject of KU, i took the Kuwait Government course with Doctor Shafeeq Al-Ghabra, i hope that is credible enough? Moreover, KU is 1 out of 3 Universities that i have graduated from (this is not to brag, but to establish my own credibility for future reference). Moreover, if Kuwait was an Islamic state, you wouldn't have a man-made constitution because our constitution would be the Quran. Again, don't take my word, please do your own findings.
Then ask yourself this: if Kuwait is 30% Shiite and 70% Sunni, and within the Sunnies there are 2 main schools within our parliament the Salafi and the Ikhwan, whos translation of the Sharia do we follow as a country?
Oh & on the subject of KU, i took the Kuwait Government course with Doctor Shafeeq Al-Ghabra, i hope that is credible enough? Moreover, KU is 1 out of 3 Universities that i have graduated from (this is not to brag, but to establish my own credibility for future reference). Moreover, if Kuwait was an Islamic state, you wouldn't have a man-made constitution because our constitution would be the Quran. Again, don't take my word, please do your own findings.
Then ask yourself this: if Kuwait is 30% Shiite and 70% Sunni, and within the Sunnies there are 2 main schools within our parliament the Salafi and the Ikhwan, whos translation of the Sharia do we follow as a country?
Dear All,
Everyone is more than welcome here. Thank you for your comments, its always interesting to learn about people and their beliefs, so please always speak your minds :)
Thank you for your efforts.
Sheba :)
Everyone is more than welcome here. Thank you for your comments, its always interesting to learn about people and their beliefs, so please always speak your minds :)
Thank you for your efforts.
Sheba :)
When Sabah Al-Ahmad "allows" Bashar and Star Academy concert to go on just because his grand daughters are big fans of Bashar. Then instructs Minister of info Abo Al-Hasan to "regulate" the rest of the concerts according to the Islamists demands - makes me wonder . Are we in some kind of a game between the govt and the strongest - most funded - most influntial party in Kuwait - the Islamists? You cant talk about democracy and Islam in one sentence, you can ask any islamist - even the MP's if they really beleive in the democratic system we have here and they will all agree that its not islamic in any way or shape and will never give up til they modify every law to one which is compatible with thier own system of beleifs - no one agrees on these beleifs. If you seriously think that the Islamists are not on thier way of controlling this country , just go back in time 25 years ago or little more and compare, compare the life style of most Kuwaitis, the govt policies on everything from education to television ( How many religious shows we had in 1977? and how was our beloved university back then? When was Kolliyat al sharee3a esatblished? ). And let us not forget how the govt raised and supported the Islamists groups by allowing thier donation shacks to mushroom all over the place, you tell me could a non-Islamist group ( like the communist al-Manbar ) "dare" to even leave a donation box in front of the co op door?! Without facing the wrath of the govt and Amn al dawla?? Looking at other Gulf states we see how the govts there have always kept the Islamists under control and the rulers there never feel threatned by them or even show any worry, unlike our govt which would stop and turn on a dime just to listen very carefully to what Mr Al-Tabtaba'ai or Mr 3awad Baraad (weekly) demand&threat - then dedicate a whole meeting of the ministers to discuss it and to meet their demands or at least to award them with what might make them happy for a short while - all of that at break neck speed never seen on any other situation ( How fast the Bluetooth law was approved by Sabah Alahmad govt afer Ahmad baqer suggested it? ) . If that doesnt show you true "control" and power then nothing does.
Thank you anonymous. May i also add the women's right to vote that was an EMIRI request and vetoed by the men in beards and the monkeys in Parliament. Wala 3aib.
Interesting topic...
I am a non-Kuwaiti who has lived in Kuwait my whole life. If this country turns into the next KSA or Iran... I really would not like to leave... I would expect every Kuwaiti citizen who would be against such a movement, to be in the streets protesting (at least thats what they do where I come from, even if we dont get what we want ;) lol)... if all else fails, i am sorry to say, that I would leave Kuwait. Not that I have anything wrong with Islam... but because I find it my right to CHOOSE how I would like to live rather than have it chosen for me... All we have in life is our opinions which create who we are, once that is taken away, we really have nothing....
I am a non-Kuwaiti who has lived in Kuwait my whole life. If this country turns into the next KSA or Iran... I really would not like to leave... I would expect every Kuwaiti citizen who would be against such a movement, to be in the streets protesting (at least thats what they do where I come from, even if we dont get what we want ;) lol)... if all else fails, i am sorry to say, that I would leave Kuwait. Not that I have anything wrong with Islam... but because I find it my right to CHOOSE how I would like to live rather than have it chosen for me... All we have in life is our opinions which create who we are, once that is taken away, we really have nothing....
Not everyone can afford the luxury of choice you have offered your readers.
I count my lucky stars each day Kuwait isn't yet a Saudi or Iran.
But like it or not Kuwait is in more ways than one a far cry from what it used to be like back in the late 70s. If anything Kuwait has turned into a nanny state. Here's a little snippet of life then & now:
1) Then - Arab Times weekly bingo contest with a bumper cash prize jackpot.
Now - Bingo is prohibited (how dare I even thought of it, I am contaminated by its very thought already) Now Arab times has gone all moral - the mouth piece of Saudi royals that it is, who fill up its coffers.
2) Then - Suave Lebanese coiffeurs in most ladies salons keeping their patrons happy.
Now - it could get the salon closed, the client deported & the poor coiffeur imprisoned for such a faux pas
3) Then KU - A co-ed higher seat of learning.
Now KU- a tightly segregated political hot potato.
4) Then good weather meant the big top would come to town.
Now - big top will remain a big fantasy for kids growing up here who will never know what it's like going to the circus.
5) Then Salem Mubarak street - a micro-cosm of sleek shoppers and families going through the motions.
Now Salem Mubarak street - a melee of skin-deep Westernised youths scouting the malls, for nice pieces of skirt, to get snotty on.
I rest my case.
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I count my lucky stars each day Kuwait isn't yet a Saudi or Iran.
But like it or not Kuwait is in more ways than one a far cry from what it used to be like back in the late 70s. If anything Kuwait has turned into a nanny state. Here's a little snippet of life then & now:
1) Then - Arab Times weekly bingo contest with a bumper cash prize jackpot.
Now - Bingo is prohibited (how dare I even thought of it, I am contaminated by its very thought already) Now Arab times has gone all moral - the mouth piece of Saudi royals that it is, who fill up its coffers.
2) Then - Suave Lebanese coiffeurs in most ladies salons keeping their patrons happy.
Now - it could get the salon closed, the client deported & the poor coiffeur imprisoned for such a faux pas
3) Then KU - A co-ed higher seat of learning.
Now KU- a tightly segregated political hot potato.
4) Then good weather meant the big top would come to town.
Now - big top will remain a big fantasy for kids growing up here who will never know what it's like going to the circus.
5) Then Salem Mubarak street - a micro-cosm of sleek shoppers and families going through the motions.
Now Salem Mubarak street - a melee of skin-deep Westernised youths scouting the malls, for nice pieces of skirt, to get snotty on.
I rest my case.
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